From working with location-based information systems we know that positioning is problematic. A different approach was tested, where users themselves were allowed to name and define the places they wanted to use. The question was if they would do so, and if they would understand the notion of "place". In a user study, 78 users created 84 place labels. The user study also gave us some unexpected input to the users' perception of place: not only physical, but also virtual places were created. Keywords Place, positioning, location-based information systems